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David McDuff

Fun list, Terry. I don't blame you for starting here -- it's always way more energizing to think up the "most hated" list than with a serious top ten. I can't say that my list would be identical but your numbers 8, 5 and 4 would certainly be there.

Fredric Koeppel

whoa, get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, did we? Too much Lindsay and Britney? Anyway, the problem with celebrity winemakers is that we CAn tell, because all of their wines taste alike, no matter what country they're in on what day.

Terry Hughes

Actually, I wrote this little poem to dyspepsia last night whilst enjoying that Tiefenbrunner PG. I may have got up on the wrong side of the bed anyhow.

As to the celeb winemakers/consultants, are they to blame for that uniformity? Or are the people who hire them? Or...(see #8 and #3)?

Fiorenzo

"If this is Tuesday, it must be Argentina."... Standing ovation :D I remember that movie, I wonder how many do...

Terry Hughes

Caspita, fiorenzo, sei un vecchiotto come me!!

Marco

Why did you have to mention Rachel Ray and wine together? Right on post! Enjoy the damned wine and shut up. That's what the real winemakers want us to do. There's way to much fetishism connected with food and wine.

Terry Hughes

I've quoted my brother-in-law before, Marco, when he told me that friends of his in Napa apply a very different strategy when drinking (not tasting!)the wine. One of the highest forms of praise:

"This is good shit."

Of course the problem with that is you have to BE there to get exactly what they mean. If you aren't I guess you're condemned to spinning all those paragraphs of purple prose.

Fabio Ingrosso

Hi Terence, I wrote a post for Graziablog about celebrity winemakers. I don't like them for a reason: they take advantage from their stardom.
Link to my post in italian: http://tinyurl.com/yvs38v

Terry Hughes

Fabio, your post and the lively comments are very interesting. Thanks for the link.

However, when we say "celebrity winemakers" in English we are usually referring to the winemakers (or consultants) who have themselves become celebrities, like Rolland, Cotarella etc.

But either way, these "celebrities" do exploit their fame and pass off wine that is usually either too expensive or inferior or both. The complaint against the winemaker-consultants is that the wines their clients make all tastes pretty much the same. This may be unjust, but I for one have had many experiences demonstrating the general truth of the statement. What is your feeling about that?

Marco

Terry, I forgot to mention your mention of bloggers and restaurant markups. You're spot on about wine bloggers. They provide invaluable insights into vino. I've learned much more from them than Pope Parker. As for restaurants, they're shooting themselves in the foot. Make your profit and inform people about your wines rather than mark 'em up 400% and provide meager facts about the wines and pairing.

Terry Hughes

Restaurant people at least in the States do a terrible job of selling wine, for the reasons you mention and also because they'll too often take the lead of a liquor distributor rep and order whatever THEY tell them will sell. Or what's really cheap. Yet when you talk to the restaurateurs about a better way of doing this, they give you a fish-eyed stare and that's it. Discussion ovah.

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