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justine

By George I think you've got it! Well, nearly...I hear what you're saying about alcohol, but I don't agree that it's so critical to enjoyment of wine as to need to part of a rating system. Quaffability, on the other hand, is right at the top of the tree (oh, and I guess you'd have to qualify it as mouthfuls, not glasses for dessert wines: I could eat, and savour a teaspoon of honey, but 7 would make me throw up).
So many have theorised about point systems that we need a point system to rate the point systems and another for the theorisers.
As a producer, point ststems are, to a large degree, unimportant (although getting a shiny badge is always nice). Unimportant because we cannot replicate that wine the following year, and we have already produced the rated one to a quantity that we beleive we can sell anyway. Perhaps most importantly, we produce wines that WE like, and we sweat grape juice every year trying to make them so we like them even more.
From a consumer side though, I think points and guides and the whole shebang are much more important. A producer is ostensibly only concerned with his/her own wines, whilst the lucky buyer has to stand alone and bewildered in front of the wineshelves. Where to start? Price and a pretty label as a fumbling beginner, but anyone wanting to become an experienced wine lover needs a bit of guidance from someone who has done it all before.
As someone who thinks there's an inordinate load of snobbish tosh sluicing around the wine industry, I would say this: a rating system from a critic whose palate is similar to your own is a fairly good yardstick to use when deciding, rather than chancing, upon a wine, and a rating system such as you suggest (minus the alcohol bit) which pegs how slurpable it is , is very very close to how 99% of us rate a wine to ourselves. Good show.

Terry Hughes

Coming from a wine producer, this is high praise indeed.

The point about alcohol is a good one. I was looking for a factual anchor, if you will, for the subjective, personal response to a wine. If a wine is too alcoholic, I can/want to drink less than if it is at a reasonable level (usually 12-13.5). I considered doing a special thing for dessert wines and thought, well, the glasses are teeny, so go ahead. Also, the 7 is a notional number - I'd LIKE to drink that much of a wonderful wine, although it may not be available or physically possible.

It's a work in progress.

BTW, Gianpaolo once told me that you're witty. You really are. Dump him and the kids and we'll have a great laugh-in here in NYC.

Morgan

careful - as with most things, i find wine gets significantly better after seven glasses...

justine

mostly, as with careful things, I'm better finding wine after seven significant glasses. hic. this is my eighth.

Terry Hughes

@ Justine: Oh you Limies!

@ Morgan: Oh you Hughes!

@ Gabrio: See, I added the thing about too much alcohol. Fast response time, huh?

gianpaolo

Hey Terry, be careful with Justine, you'll have to get all the package (which includes three lovely children under the age of 6... ;-)) or nothing!

Terry Hughes

Oh, damn. I was just thinking of a rollicking long weekend in New York. No kids!

Ronald

T,

why don't you just use the number of glasses as your happiness quotient instead of multiplying it % alcohol?

and why bother with rating system in the 1st place when you're really good with words? i found your explaination 'methods' of the wines you tasted better than just tagging a no on it..

be careful...anti Parkerization move is on the rise *is it?*..
but it would also be nice to have your rating system..imagine in 5 years time...anti 'Terry-rization'...

Terry Hughes

There's already anti-Terryization. It begins at home, sadly...

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